In the Loop AI

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For the last three years, AI has been something that we talk to.

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We would type to it and then it types something back to us. And then we would

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take that information and go do something useful with it.

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But over the last eight weeks, that's changed pretty dramatically.

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And it comes in the form of this thing called an AI agent.

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Now, this is a term that has been floated across many different headlines,

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but no one quite understands what an AI agent is.

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The best way to think about it is it's an AI model that has the means to do things for you.

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It's like giving an AI model arms and the legs, and it's able to kind of run

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around and do various different tasks for you.

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Examples could be download or order that book that's been on your list for ages

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so that you can read it, filing your tax forms or organizing dinners between

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friends in your text chat. And there's so much more that these AI agents can do.

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So you might expect that the most popular AI agents come from the likes of Anthropic

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and maybe even OpenAI, but that's not actually true.

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The most popular agents come from the likes of Meta in the form of MetaMuse.

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You've got Elon Musk with GrokBot, you've got OpenAI that released Dots just

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last week, and I've been playing around with it, testing it out.

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And finally, you have this app called Instinct, which weirdly isn't actually

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an app. It just kind of lives everywhere and anywhere that you touch a digital surface.

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It was created by this 23-year-old and it's worth billions of dollars.

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So I've been playing around with these things for the last couple of weeks.

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Millions of other people have downloaded it and been doing the same.

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And I've been trying to answer two very important questions.

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One, what are the differences between these AI agents? Which one should I use?

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And two, what's the point of even using an AI agent in the first place?

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Should I materially move from using an LLM or a chatbot?

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Does it actually add anything to my life? Do I even care about productivity that much?

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Why should I use an AI agent? So we're going to dig into all of that and more

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on today's episode of In The Loop brought to you by Qualcomm.

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But before I do that, I want to address the elephant in the room.

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For all of you limitless listeners out there, you might be wondering what on

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earth is In The Loop and where are you, Ejaz?

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Well, let me start with the first question. In The Loop is the rebranded title of this show.

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It is obviously missing a very important co-host.

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I miss you, Josh, if you're watching this, but it now currently involves me

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and it's kind of like a rebrand, a refresh of what we're trying to do here.

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I'm deeply passionate, as you guys already know, about all the stuff that is

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happening on AI and Frontier Tech.

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And with this new show, we're going to bring it to you five times a week,

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Monday to Friday, so we don't skip any weekdays.

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You'll be kept up to date with anything and everything that's going along.

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Bite-sized chunks, 20 to 25 minutes so that you can listen to it on your commute

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to work or if you're cooking at home or whatever, if you just like or take pleasure

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in listening to our episodes or our kind of content.

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And yeah, it's just the rebranding of the show, I guess. And so I don't want that to be a mystery.

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If you're still wondering what on earth has happened, whether Josh and I have

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broken up, I can happily say that we have not. Josh has moved on to bigger and

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better things. And we actually put out a whole episode about this yesterday.

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So definitely go check it out on our channel. And to answer the second question.

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I'm in a pretty new swanky studio, and it feels pretty awesome.

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This is a major upgrade from the bedroom that we started recording the show

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around like 234 episodes ago, or whatever that might be.

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But I did bring a piece of home with me. This piece of art has been with me

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for a while. And so it's lovely to bring it here. So yeah, new studio,

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new show, excited to get going.

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Okay, so firstly, what the hell is even an AI agent?

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And I created this fun little animation with Claude to kind of describe this to you.

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So typically, when we're interacting with the web, we have to navigate to individual

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different websites, every single app, we need to kind of like scroll navigate

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through buttons, try and figure out where the product is or where the services

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or where that button is, click on it.

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And it's kind of an archaic whole mess. What I'm trying to demonstrate with

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this animation or what AI agents do specifically is it kind of coagulates all of that for you.

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It kind of like becomes your center nexus or your medium of interaction with

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the rest of the digital world.

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And so it ends up becoming, I guess, a lot less messy and much easier to interact

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with instead of having to find a website or navigating an app to download it or finding that button.

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You just speak to an AI agent, ask for what you want, and it magically appears

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or it magically gets done for you. The other cool thing about this that isn't

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shown on this animation is the AI agent can intuitively predict what you might want to get done.

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And I think this solves a very big problem in AI, which is.

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99% of people don't know what to use their AI model for.

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I'm certainly in that category where I see all these new models getting released

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and I'm wondering, hmm, what can this do for me?

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What's the net new thing? If I don't code, if I am not a designer at heart,

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how can I use this as a normal person and create a more productive lifestyle

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for me or just kind of free up more time for me?

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The idea of a personal agent or these new AI agents that we're about to get

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into is that it's not just focused on productivity. Some of them are in the

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likes of GrokBot and OpenAI's Dots.

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But when you look at MetaMuse, when you look at Instinct, it becomes a sort

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of lifestyle product. And that's something that I think a lot of people would

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benefit from. But enough of this. Let's get into the actual agents, pros and cons.

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So the first AI agent also happens to be my current favorite personal assistant.

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It's the number one agent in all app stores and it's called MetaMuse. It's by Meta.

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And Muse is this kind of very intuitive, very human feeling ai agent you kind

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of download an app and the setup takes around five seconds it's as easy as adding

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your number stating your name and then you're introduced to this weird

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wonderful looking blob like character i'm trying to find a demo here that demonstrates

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it oh yeah over here where we got zuck kind of like casually leaning against

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a shelf and we're greeted by this kind of weird blob.

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Alien slash teddy bear looking creature and it talks to you very normally now

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a few things instantly hit me when I downloaded this AI agent.

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One, setup was super easy.

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But two, it wasn't bombarding me with text. It was almost just kind of short

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form, kind of, hey, what's up? How can I help you?

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Is there anything that's on your mind? And what I liked about it is it could

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proactively kind of predict what I might want.

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Now, one way that it was able to do this is it got access to my text.

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Now, it's very important to point out that, listen, you don't want AI agents

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randomly going out to text your friends or family or whatever that might be.

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Metamuse can't do that. It can't do a lot of things without your required approval.

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And you can determine when and where that makes the most sense.

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But because it was able to have the context of that it knew that I was discussing

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with my fiance something that I wanted to buy on Amazon and it came to me and it was like hey like.

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I saw that you were looking for some things, I actually found a better option

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for you. That was literally the first message that it sent me.

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And I thought, okay, that's weird.

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It kind of feels a little bit invasive.

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But I'm willing to trust this a little bit more because it comes from a reputable

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firm such as Meta. Now I get that Meta has had privacy issues in the past.

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And one thing that Zuck has made very clear, especially in this clip that I'm

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showing you here, when they announced this at Meta Connect, is that privacy

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is at the core of this entire product. And I'll get into where exactly that

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applies in a second. But first, the actual stats behind this AI agent, it's been downloaded.

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I think this figure is actually outdated. It's been downloaded over 3.5 million times.

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And as of two days ago, I saw a stat that basically said that they had 2 million

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daily active users, which is pretty insane.

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Now, granted, Meta's user magnitude is much larger than that.

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I think they have about 3.5 billion users across Instagram, WhatsApp, and Facebook.

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But the fact that they're able to get this much usage on a new novel AI product is pretty cool.

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They're also constrained by compute. That's partly why it's only rolled out

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in America. But if you're living in America right now, you get access to this

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thing and you can play around with it.

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So what exactly can this do for you? Well, I'll speak personally from my own

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anecdote on this tweet that actually went viral.

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I was basically on my way to a destination and my flight, my second flight,

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got delayed seven hours. So I was stranded in this airport, and it was the most

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frustrating experience ever.

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So I was bored and I brought up Muse and I said, listen.

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My flight's been delayed seven hours. Can you file for compensation for me?

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I had no idea whether I qualified for compensation. I had no idea about my airline's

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policies or guidelines.

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I just told Muse, hey, my second flight's been delayed. Is there anything you

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can do to help me out and figure out getting compensation?

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And it did a miraculous thing.

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In exactly five minutes, so five minutes later from writing that prompt,

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I had $250 worth of Delta credits for future flights in my account.

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And it even helped me rebook a new flight, which got me out to my destination

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much faster than I would have if I had to wait for my delayed flight.

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Now a few things to point out here. One, I gave it no context about my flights.

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But because it was able to read my text, it saw that I had a message or notification

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from Delta an hour earlier about this particular delay.

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So it knew exactly what flight details I was on, which flight or airline carriage

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got delayed and where I was routed to or where I was trying to get to.

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And it didn't regurgitate all of that back to me. It just kind of knew and responded

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intuitively to me, said, listen, I got you, I'll figure this out.

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Number two, it was able to navigate to the Delta website. So it didn't connect

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to any of my Delta logins on my Delta apps.

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It just went to the main website. It found the right contact details. It spun up an email.

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It added my own email address. And then it wrote out the entire thing and filed the entire form.

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It added my SkyMiles number. It did a whole load of things that would have basically

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taken me, I want to say 30 to 40 minutes. It would have taken me 30 minutes

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alone to find the actual page. It's like hidden under like several different pages.

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Muse did it all autonomously by spinning up its own desktop browser.

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So this leads me to how this thing actually works.

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When you think of an AI model, typically you just talk to it and it gives you

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back a response built on the knowledge that it already has.

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With an AI agent like Muse, it is given its own computer. It's known as a virtual

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machine or a virtual computer.

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Think of this as like your laptop or your desktop that you see in front of your

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screen or on your phone right now, but it's given to this AI LLM that can basically

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do the exact same things that you can, but on its own instance.

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Now it's important to note here that it doesn't share the same desktop as you.

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It can't see your personal files. It can't see anything that you have on your

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own computer. This is a completely separate thing, but it can do all the things

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that you can do. It can download various different plugins. It can navigate on a browser.

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It can open up tabs in the same way that you do and figure out all of this autonomously

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at lightning speed because it's AI and it's software.

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So it just kind of like repeatedly does that and it never gets bored, which is amazing.

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And this is just one of very many examples that i've had i've seen a guy take

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a picture on his walk every morning of telephone wires that were dangling down

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from trees or from exposed wires.

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And ask his Muse agent to file a complaint to Verizon to send a technician out there to go and fix it.

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And it just did it completely autonomously. And he got an email an hour later

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saying, it's been scheduled, you don't need to be there, technician will fix

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this over the next 48 hours.

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I have another personal anecdote where I met this exec, Qualcomm recently,

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and she was like, I don't get the fuss around AI agents. I don't think this

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is something that I might, you know, use in my personal life.

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And I managed to convince her to play around with Muse because,

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you know, she had a bunch of photos scattered around Facebook,

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WhatsApp, her iPhotos and stuff like that.

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And she wrote me a very lengthy email a few days later, basically saying,

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this has completely changed my life. And I'm using it for so many different things.

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She has a book club, she gets it to organize ordering books for everyone,

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sending it to their various different addresses, she does the same thing for

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movie recommendations.

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So the point here is, I would describe Muse as a lifestyle change,

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a lifestyle product that is powered by AI.

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AI isn't front and center. It's just a really good product. And actually,

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when you uncover the hood, it's not even a frontier model that is doing all

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of this for you, which is the next interesting thing, I guess.

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It is Muse Spark 1.2 or 1.3, whatever the latest meta model is. So for any of.

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Meta's models aren't as smart as Claude Fable 5.1 or GPT 6.1 Astra,

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which are the frontier leading models.

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And yet it has a better product experience than the agents that those two companies have built.

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So it's this crazy thing where Meta has an advantage of having all the data

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built off of your Instagram, WhatsApp messages, and they kind of intuitively know what you want.

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They know how to speak to individuals. They know how to build a really good

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consumer product. And that's how I would describe Metamuse.

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If this is something that you haven't tried it, I would definitely recommend.

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Now, you might be wondering on that note, is this thing free?

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Do I need to pay for another subscription?

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Or is this something that I can just kind of flip on, it connects to any of

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my existing accounts, and I can just use it?

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It's the latter. It's that answer that I just gave you. Number one,

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it's completely free to use up till I think 100 million token cap per week.

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Now, let me tell you, if you're hitting 100 million tokens worth of usage on

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this AI agent, per week, you are doing something else.

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You are running multiple businesses, and there's no other reason that the average

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person needs to be hitting that cap.

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But if you end up do loving Muse so much and it hits every single aspect of

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your life, and I don't know, it's automating your grocery list,

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it's cooking for you, it's controlling your lights or whatever that might be,

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you might hit that 100 million cap.

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And if so, it only costs you $20 a month, which granted is the cost of an average

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AI subscription, but it gets you to, I think it's like 500 million tokens,

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which again is so plentiful. I cannot emphasize how much this is.

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You don't need to worry. I think the free version is all good.

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And the cool part is you can literally give it access to your ChatGPT subscription

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or your Claude subscription, and you can just get this agent to do anything and everything for you.

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And finally, a last point on the privacy thing that I mentioned earlier.

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Now, listen, Meta's had a bad rap when it comes to privacy.

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People haven't forgotten the Cambridge Analytica stuff and so they're kind of

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wary when they use Meta's products. They.

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Predict, or I would assume people predict that Meta would use this information

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to benefit their products so that they make it more lucrative or stickier to

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use, which gets you kind of addicted to their products.

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Now, one thing Zuck made very clear when he announced or launched Muse is that

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it's built around privacy.

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And they've done this in a very particular way. I'm not going to get into the

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architecture, but it basically can be thought of as follows.

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Imagine a hotel. It's a luxurious hotel and it has many rooms hundreds of thousands of rooms

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each room is dedicated to a particular agent so when you spin up a muse agent

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when you open up the app and you sign up you have your very own agent that has

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its own room now that room can't be accessed by any other individual.

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No other user of muse can get any kind of access to your particular room and

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in that room there's the equivalent of a

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hotel safe and in that hotel safe is where all your passwords and credentials

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get saved and encrypted so that not even meta can get access to it

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if you deem it so if you want to give your agent access to your email or if

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you want to give it access to i don't know

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some account that's secured by a password you can do so confidently without

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worrying that anyone could get access to it now as for the room itself

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you know it's a hotel so you have other agents wandering around the same kind

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of system meta has the equivalent of a concierge or a sentry guard which basically

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monitors anything and everything that comes in

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and comes out of your interaction with your muse agent

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and so if that flags any kind of issue

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or malicious spam or whatever that might be it instantly cuts it out and so

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far it's been an extremely robust method of defending against any kind of attacks

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i haven't come across anything and i actually haven't seen any other instance

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of people suffering from incidents like that.

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So the point is it's private and it can be used for some really cool things.

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The last thing actually I'll add about this is from a business perspective.

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It is crazy what you can do with this agent. I've seen examples of people who,

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run ads on Instagram or who have competitors that post social media content on Instagram.

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And they've asked their muse, hey, could you go check out this person's business?

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Could you kind of like look at the style of their content and maybe recreate the same for me?

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Or actually, could you check out their follower list and DM all of them and

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say, hey, we're offering you a 50% discount, go use our product.

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And muse agent will just go out and do that. So it's this weird mixture of like

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a lifestyle thing and a really good business application, but it's not too intimidating as an AI agent.

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I don't know, it's very cool. Okay, so the next one is from our lord and savior,

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our favorite man ever, Elon Musk. So we're gonna dig into all of that and more

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on today's episode of In The Loop, brought to you by Qualcomm.

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Now, Elon's been busy. He's been busy acquiring all the compute that he can

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for SpaceX AI. I actually heard that it's called, it's being rebranded to SpaceX.

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SI, super intelligence and rebranding that Trump did. It's a whole thing.

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But he's been raising money to buy compute. He's IPO'd one of the biggest AI

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IPOs to date prior to Anthropics. That's reportedly coming in a few weeks.

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And SpaceX has, for all intents and purposes, still fallen behind on frontier AI models.

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Grok 4.7 got released. And listen, it's a great model.

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It's very cheap per unit cost of intelligence, but it's by no means frontier.

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And Elon Musk has been very upfront about this. He said that Grok 5 will eventually

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come out by the end of the year, and that will be competitive to something that

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we're seeing with Fable right now.

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But when it comes to consumer products, I would say that SpaceX,

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or X specifically, has a real advantage because they have millions and millions

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of users all over the world that uses X to transact money, to store money like a bank.

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XMoney launched, I think, a few months ago, and to share the world's most important

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news and information on the actual social media site itself.

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So you could argue that it could build something similar to what Meta has with Muse.

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And that's actually what they ended up doing. Now, GrokBot is unique in a few different ways.

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GrokBot can be thought of as not just a single AI agent, but a single agent

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collectively part of a larger swarm of agents.

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Now, there's a lot of technical jargon there, but what that basically means

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is, instead of one agent working for you, there are hundreds,

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maybe even thousands of agents working for you.

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But they all get access to a computer in the very same way that Metamuse is able to do that.

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And the focus of GrokBot isn't necessarily around lifestyle,

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although it's very good at doing that in my personal experience.

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But it's more focused around productivity. Even in this demo that you see in

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front of you, GrokBot basically gets access to any high-powered tools that you

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might use on personal life or productive enterprise work kind of life.

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So think about Slack, think about CRMs to manage your customer or your business,

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think about Notion, Jira, Atlassian, all the work productivity apps that you

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might use on a day-to-day basis, you can give GrokBot access to.

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It stores your password safely encrypted it so that it doesn't leak any of that stuff.

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And it is able to actually conduct really good knowledge work.

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Now, in my experience, when I'm doing sorts of research around particular episodes

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that we're going to do, creating demos, coming up with ideas of what to talk

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to you guys about, this has been a really good colleague.

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And I mean that term intentionally, it's can be thought of as like a work partner

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and less of something that can be like a friend, a mentor, or something that

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can kind of free up your time like Metamuse.

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Now, the coolest feature by far with GrokBot is that it can monitor tasks that

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you do autonomously and then eventually replicate you doing those exact tasks on its own separately.

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Let me repeat that. Let's say that an AI has no idea about a task that you know

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very well to do, that you've studied years trying to figure out,

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or that you just do naturally because you've been on the internet for decades at this point, right?

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GrokBot, or most AI models in general, usually lack the context.

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You usually have to spoon feed it. You need to explain, hey,

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this is what I'm doing and this is why I'm doing it.

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GrokBot sort of watches you. It sort of records your screen and kind of understands

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why you're doing what you're meant to be doing.

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And so the idea here is that eventually it becomes the perfect emulation or

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predictor of tasks that you might want to do on a daily basis.

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So eventually it frees you up to go and do other stuff and it can just kind

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of take all of this off your plate.

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I think that's really cool. Now, in terms of pricing, it comes bundled with

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Cursor. Cursor is the AI coding platform that SpaceX acquired shortly after

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their IPO for $60 billion.

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It's not free to access. You have to pay at minimum, I think it's $20 a month

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for very limited or not so limited weekly usage, but it's capped.

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It's not as free as MetaMuse with 100 million tokens. I think it's a little less than that.

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But you could increase that limit if you forked out $60 a month with Cursor

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Pro Plus. So it's more of a bundle thing. It's certainly not free.

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And if you're going to end up using this platform, I think it's something that

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you should trial out for your work stuff.

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That's my personal take. I think if you want to play around with an AI agent

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and really understand the magic behind it and you don't have an explicit use

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case, you kind of are confused about what you might want to use it for,

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go out and use Metamuse. That's the best thing that's available right now.

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But the final thing I'll say about GrokBot is spinning up multiple agents to

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do your work for you was way more productive than I thought it would be,

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but it's also a little confusing. Now, what I like about,

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I guess, an app like Muse or Instinct that I'm just about to talk about is that

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it's just a single interface. It's a single agent. So you could build a sort

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of relationship with that agent. You can't really do that.

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I don't get that sense from using Crock-Bot. It is more like working with a workforce.

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They're a little more robotic and mechanical, but extremely productive.

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So again, if you're an enterprise that's trying to figure out whether using

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AI agents versus models are more productive and cheaper for you.

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Go try it out. And now the third AI agent is one that weirdly doesn't have a

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home. It's called Instinct. And it was this stealth startup,

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which I think came out of stealth a few months ago, but it's already been downloaded over 500,000 times.

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And technically, it's still in private beta. It was started by a 23 year old

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that has a lot of history in building AI type products.

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His name is Noah Shin, and he's an absolute genius. He used to work for this

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company called Sierra AI, which was a customer service focused AI.

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But what I'm really impressed by is this paper called Reflexion that he wrote, I think back in 2023.

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And it is the most cited research paper for AI agents ever.

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And so I looked at this paper and the core idea behind it is if you can instruct

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an AI or an AI agent to write down on a document.

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The core reason why it made a mistake or why it can complete the task and then

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get it to rerun that task, it does a much better job.

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And this was famously used and seen in GPT-4, which had a coding pass rate back then of 80%.

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And because of this paper, because of Noah Shin, it got pushed to 91%.

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So Noah has a lot of background and credibility in two of the most important

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things, building bleeding edge frontier AI, and also customer service.

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So building a product that people actually want to use.

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And that's really the manifestation of this product called instinct.

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Now, firstly, I mentioned earlier, it doesn't have a home because it literally doesn't have a home.

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When I got an invite link to this thing, I just tapped the link,

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I gave it my number, and then suddenly it just kind of.

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Appeared. It texted me on my iMessage. And so I opened up my iMessage and I

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responded saying hello.

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And it said, hey, I'm Instinct. What do you need a hand with?

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And it then started to be a lot more proactive in the same way that Meta Muse was.

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Now, what's cool about this compared to Muse is that there is no separate app

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that I need to kind of keep track of or open.

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It is just kind of this very imposing AI agent that is completely invisible.

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And I understand that that's completely an oxymoron, but it really is that.

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It is anywhere and everywhere that I am without being in my face and imposing

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and trying to control everything that I'm trying to do.

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It's just this kind of ambient AI, very much like a Jarvis from Tony Stark,

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any of you Iron Man fans out there.

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And it's really easy to use. So actually, it's one of my favorite products to

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use, but it is in private beta.

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And I do have a few comments on this, the main one being around the terms and

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agreement and privacy. Now, I just explained to you why Metamuse has been built

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around privacy, and it's taken a lot of feedback from previous past incidents. So.

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This hasn't been the case with Instinct. When you sign the terms and agreements

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and you give it access to your phone, and let's say you delete your account.

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It still has all the data that it had access to, that it's indexed,

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that it's able to train on and build a better model.

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And that's been a key reason why a lot of very prominent figures in AI themselves

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haven't signed on to this thing, because it's quite invasive compared to any

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other product that you could go out and use.

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The other thing is, I don't know what model is powering it behind the hood.

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And maybe you don't care at the end of the day, but I do like to know how my

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data is being used for whatever model behind the hood. And if it's a Chinese

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open source model, I might have different thoughts about it,

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whether it's that or versus a Western frontier model.

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But all that might still be worth it for a few different features.

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Number one, the price. It is completely free and being subsidized to high heaven.

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Now, when Instinct was pushed to comment on that business model,

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their response was, our aim is to basically take a percentage of every transaction

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that you might facilitate using Instinct.

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So the idea I get from there is there's going to be a heavy push on e-commerce

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via the Instinct agent. So it should be very easy for you to go out and buy

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stuff or engage with a product or service.

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And they'll just take a percentage cut from that, which makes sense.

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But I have a feeling that they can't subsidize this forever and people aren't

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gonna be fully trusting of an AI agent to go and do its shopping.

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It can't even come up with basic ideas of what to buy in the first place.

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So I feel like that's a bit more of a stretch when it comes to this.

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And so I don't think it'll be free forever, but certainly cool to try out for now.

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The second thing is I have watched Instinct literally call up.

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A service, in this case, a restaurant, and book a reservation for me.

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I was super curious about how this would work. And he got access to 11 labs,

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voice API, and was able to just do the whole thing completely autonomously,

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which was very weird and surreal to watch, but cool nonetheless.

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And the funniest meme-worthy example that I saw was this post by Aaron where

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he goes, I asked my instinct to ask my sister's instinct for her Netflix code.

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So AI agents speaking to other AI agents.

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Now I never need to talk to my family again, which I found hilarious.

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And I sent straight to my sister.

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Okay, and now, if you've stuck along this far, the final agent comes from none other than OpenAI.

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And this is more of a recent addition. This literally got released last week

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at OpenAI Dev Day, which is an annual conference where they release a bunch

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of things they've been cooking up all year.

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And one of their flagship announcements was this product called Dots,

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D-O-T-S, which is a cute and affectionate name to this weird little avatar thing

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that you're seeing on your screen right now.

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And in the promo video, which I think is actually the most interesting thing to comment on.

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No one touches a keyboard or a screen. They just kind of look at a screen and they speak.

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And these AI models or these AI cute blob agent-like things can run around and go do a bunch of things.

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Now, the examples that they give were mainly pushed on the work-oriented side

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of things. So knowledge work, enterprise work, things that you would do at your

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day job, less of a lifestyle thing.

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The second thing I'll point out is it's very intuitive when it comes to using

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tools. It can kind of like connect to any tools, Slack, work interface,

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whatever that might be, in the same way that GrokBot does that for SpaceX AI.

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And it can go out and do stuff whilst you sleep. It can work 24-7 around the clock.

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Now, this thing can connect to over 4,000 tools, apps, and services,

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which I believe is the largest amount for all the AI agents that we've covered

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so far in this episode, which is cool and productive if, I don't know,

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you're a large enterprise.

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But for the average person, I have a feeling you don't care.

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I have a feeling you can't come up with even three tools that it needs to connect to.

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So I would err on the side of, again, using something like Instinct or Metamuse

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to kind of trial out this whole thing unless you're an enterprise customer.

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Now, the other thing is the pricing. You cannot get access to this thing unless

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you have a pro account, which I think runs you between $150 to $200.

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If you're an enterprise account, but you pay more, you should also get access

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to this thing. So it's very expensive. It's actually the steepest price upfront

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that you need to pay to get access to an AI agent. So again,

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I implore to you that if you're just a regular human being that doesn't need to run a.

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Business making 10 to 100 million dollars a year, I don't think this is something

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that you necessarily need to care about.

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The other thing I'll say is, it's still unclear to me why I should use this agent.

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And I say that independently of all the other agents that we've covered so far.

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Firstly, the live demos that they did completely flopped, like two out of three

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didn't work. And the third one was cool. But like, I was still like, okay, this looks bad.

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And so I still think they're kind of figuring out a few kinks and trying to

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figure out how this actually applies to the majority of people.

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And that's been the general reaction that I've seen from the public.

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The other thing I'll say is OpenAI has spent hundreds of billions of dollars

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at this point trying to acquire as much compute to serve products like this.

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So why then is it being rolled out in the slowest manner possible?

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I know many people that have pro accounts that still don't have access to their own dots.

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And so when it comes to actually wanting to engage with this product post-announcement,

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it's been like a week and a half now, a lot of people still don't have access to this thing.

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And so they can't get feedback. So in my opinion, it's been a bit of a slow

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rollout, maybe wait a bit before you try a product like this out.

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Okay, so where do we stand collectively across all the agents that we covered

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today, I created this table to kind of like break down the kind of takeaways.

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But basically, if you want something that is more helpful towards your life,

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that you don't want to spend too much time thinking about that you just want

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to experience the magic of AI, and you don't care about the productivity or the KPIs that.

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Use metamuse that is like the best thing that you can use right now it's completely

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free it's cheap as hell even if you somehow

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surpassed 100 million per week token cap and it's very easy to use it's like

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talking to a friend it's the closest thing that i've come to interacting with,

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an artificial human being typically i can tell when lllm is speaking to me it's

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getting harder to do that with muse so that's the muse use case then moving

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next up i would say instinct instinct is also incredibly intuitive.

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It is more invisible than Metamuse, which is fantastic. And it is deeply integrated

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into all of your digital life, it can do a lot of things.

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But that comes at the major trade off of privacy and signing over your passwords,

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logins, and data that they can use to train God knows what in the future.

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So I would err on the side of caution when it comes to privacy.

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It's also private beta access. So maybe let's just wait until that becomes more

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public. And then you have GrokBot, which is kind of a weird hybrid between helping

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out with your personal life, but mainly helping out on your work life.

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And it does so in a very unique way where you can kind of like spin up a bunch

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of worker agents and it gets incredibly productive and connect to whatever tool you give it access to.

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And it's also relatively cheap.

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It's not exactly free, but for 20 bucks a month, you can get access to it.

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Then at the final end of that spectrum, you have OpenAI Dots,

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which is still rolling out very slowly. It is the most expensive tier,

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but it also is powered by the most powerful models in the world,

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which is GPT 6.1 Astra. So.

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Various different agents, various different options, various different reasons why you might use it.

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If you are someone that can relate to any of these, I would like to hear from

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you. If there's a different use case that I might have missed that applies to

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one of these agents, please let me know.

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Also, let me know how I did on my first episode without Josh.

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Josh, man, it is tough trying to figure this out without you,

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mate. Like it's weirdly with the co-host, I'm able to kind of like bounce back

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and forth and take a breath. I'm still adjusting to this. So please have a bit of lenience with me.

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I'm always welcome to feedback, by the way. So let me know in the comments.

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I know you guys are very good with comments and providing feedback.

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I read all of them and I'll respond to as many as I can.

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If there's anything that I missed in this breakdown, if there's an agent that's

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out there that maybe got released recently that I missed and that I should try

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out, please send it to me.

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I love to test out as many of these things as I can. And if you are listening

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